Saturday, August 19, 2006

Gay Jewish Porn Actor to Visit Israel

PinkNews recently reported that Michael Lucas, a Jewish-American porn actor, will be visiting Israel to offer a live show to entertain the troops. A quote:

His claim to be entertaining the troops will not be sanctioned by the Israeli army. Instead he offers free entry to soldiers attending his ‘performance’ in a Tel-Aviv nightclub.
And another:

Lucas also hopes his trip will bring awareness to the plight of gay people caught up in the current conflict:

"People need to see the faces of war, and I plan to shed light on the world where gay Israel exists," he writes.

"I will expose the reality that the people of Israel face right now, especially that of gay Israelis who are targeted by the hate of Hezbollah."
I was infuriated when I read this, and I didn't know why. It's great that he's going there to entertain, and it's great that such a show is accepted in Israel. I am competely supportive of that.

But the last lines irritate me immensely; they are inappropriate and uneducated. Gay rights are an international issue, and should not be confused with nationalist, ethnic, or religious conflicts.

Hizbullah has not been attacking Israel because of Israel's comparative support of gay rights, and Israel has not been attacking Lebanon in some spectacular defense of gay rights.

Going to entertain the troops is one thing, but going to ally gay rights with a national cause is wrong on many levels.

28 Comments:

Blogger QArab said...

A porn star dancing in a private club that won't charge soldiers to get in is far from an "entertaining the troops" scenario... this is simply a bad PR story meant to exploit headlines to get some attention.

that said, I would gladly go entertain Hezbollah bears... one at a time, or sometimes, two or even three...

August 21, 2006 6:20 PM  
Blogger paul said...

PR stunt or not, couldn't it be said that an acclaimed Western gay porn star and producer deflecting the Western gay man's gaze to the middle east is not such a bad thing?

August 24, 2006 11:24 AM  
Blogger mingerspice said...

I agree that the last line was stunningly ignorant. Perhaps porn stars don't crossover to politics quite as successfully as aging Californian B-movie actors.

August 28, 2006 12:15 PM  
Blogger Red Tulips said...

qarab:

Even as a joke, that was disgusting, and implies you support Hizballah.

But whatever!

I agree that certainly the war in Lebanon had nothing to do with gay rights in Lebanon, but I see no reason why it's wrong to highlight the extreme intolerance of Hizballah towards gay people. (in contradistinction towards Israel's policies)

August 31, 2006 8:43 PM  
Blogger arch.memory said...

I agree with Red Tulips, Hizballah's stance on gay rights, though not expressed, is certainly less than ideal. That being said, however, I can certainly understand Al-Fil's criticism of muddling the issues (and Qarab's "patriotic fantasy"--please, since when do fantasies have to be intellectually consistent?!).

But give me a break, it's Michael Lucas we're talking about, a porn actor! He's no better than a glorified prostitute! Have you seen the guy? To even have rational expectations of him is expecting too much. It's like expecting Haifa to have elaborate political views; you're simply asking too much! (Actually Haifa is steps above; at least she doesn't go on tape...)

September 06, 2006 3:36 PM  
Anonymous a frustrated queer arab said...

Regardless of Hizbullah's stance on gays, why bring up gay rights at all when it clearly has nothing to do with anything? There is a very clear point being made, one that is not innocent, is loaded with ideology, and that Israel uses consistently. Unfortunately, human rights and democracy have become vaccuous tools in the hands of the powerful. Israel, which sells itself as a haven of tolerance amidst a sea of backwardness, uses its more enlightened treatment of (Israeli) gays as proof that it is more civilized than the Arabs and hence more deserving of international support. In effect, what it is doing is it is claiming that some rights are more important than others (they want points for being gay friendly, but that comes at the expense of their brutal oppression of the Palestinians, which to them is unimportant. That same strategy is being used by saying Hizbullah's war is against Israeli gays). The increasingly superficial and silly and self-absorbed gay citizenry of the world that can't see beyond its own gayness is unfortunately but unsurprisingly falling for it hook, line and sinker. With an attention span of about 5 seconds for anything non-gay related, these strategies of deflection from the real issues work like a charm.

September 09, 2006 3:50 PM  
Blogger Red Tulips said...

Puh-lease. "Oppressed" Palestinians my tuchus.

http://cultureforall.blogspot.com/2006/09/palestinians-torch-ymca.html

I have very little sympathy for a people who claim to be "oppressed" and yet brutally oppress minorities within their own community, while the world community is silent.

I am sick to death of these double standards. And let's not even mention the fact that the Israelis are restrained as all hell in their treatment of the Palestinians, and no other country in the world is held to the standards of the Israelis.

The Palestinians get tons of sympathy for an illegitimate cause. On the other hand, the plight of gay Muslims is a very real and substantial cause that does need to get the attention it deserves.

September 11, 2006 8:26 PM  
Blogger Peter said...

I'm amused to see that Red Tulips relies on the anti-Palestinian (and anti-gay) WorldNetDaily as a reliable authority. Never mind that that Christian Palestinians have repeatedly debunked the claim of persecution.

September 11, 2006 11:01 PM  
Blogger Peter said...

I should add that I also find it incredibly cynical for Red Tulips to use Israel's record on LGBT issues to justify Israel's denial of basic human and political rights to Palestinians.

As if civil rights for lgbt people in one place excuses oppression and war crimes in another place. Palestinians gays and lesbians not only suffer from the Israeli occupation just like all other Palestinians,they also suffer from Israel's blackmailing of gay Palestinians into becoming colloborators. And there is no doubt that the intolerable conditions Palestinians live under have strengthened reactionary groups like Hamas and Islamic Jihad.

September 11, 2006 11:29 PM  
Blogger Red Tulips said...

Peter:

You are funny when you speak of how "oppressed" the Palestinians are. Please. Don't make me laugh. The leader of the 'Palestinians' (most of whom really are not even natives, but in fact recently moved to Israel at the same time the Jews moved to Israel) brought upon the 'degradation' of the Palestinians themselves. Look at the $3 billion that Arafat (himself a native of Egypt) left his French wifey, Suha. This was money meant for the Palestinian people. Look at how his uncle, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, led the slaughter of tens of thousands of Jews during the Holocaust.

The Palestinians never had to pay for their part in the Holocaust, not really. Their media perpetuates a genocidal death cult, and the Palestinians treat their women and gays rather poorly. (to put it mildly) Hamas, in its charter, quotes from the Protocols of Zion (a document upon which Mein Kampf was based), and is dedicated to Israel's destruction. This is the government that leads the Palestinians.

Are some Palestinians decent? Sure. I feel some sympathy for them. But as a whole, the Palestinians are false victims. They destablized Lebanon and Jordan, and have been kicked out of most nations in the world, because no one wants them for two reasons: a) they are destabilizers of governments; b) it's better to use the Palestinian issue as a "wedge issue."

I am sick of it. The Palestinian cause is a phony cause and a false effort to be concerned about. On the other hand, gay rights in general, and specifically for Muslims, is a very real issue that deserves attention.

People like Al-Fil are to be treasured and praised for bringing attention to issues that otherwise would be ignored.

I will have sympathy for the Palestinian people when they earn my sympathy. They have yet to do so. Meanwhile, there is a genocide in Darfur and no one gives even half a crap. Why? It's black people killing black people. If this involved Americans or Israelis, and a mere .5% of those who died in Darfur were killed, the world would be singing a different tune.

I am sick of this hypocrisy. Far from deserving attention, the Palestinian 'cause' deflects attention from far more pressing matters.

September 12, 2006 12:58 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hope you choke on Andrew Sullivan's dick, you lying right-wing Zionist fuckface.

September 13, 2006 2:30 AM  
Blogger Red Tulips said...

Wow, such wonderful discourse! Anon really changed my life! I now seeeeeee the light!

*laughs*

September 13, 2006 6:18 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think there are several important issues here. It is clear that gay rights in Israel are far more advanced than in the arab world, and are certainly closer to what we have in the west. The Palestinians really are not helping themselves right now. They elected a terrorist government that refuses to regognise Israel or renounce violence, which is a worrying indicator of growing extremism in the middle east. At the same time, I have a great sympathy for Palestinians (and other muslims) who take a more moderate line and respect human rights, democracy and reject terrorism. They need to make their voices heard, above those of the extremists. That will help their country acheive statehood far quicker than the terrorist route, it would also help the image problem muslims have in the west right now, by denouncing strongly terrorist attacks such as those against the US, UK, Spain and Israel (and any terror attack), rather than getting more offended about some silly cartoons than the loss of human life. With the Israeli/Palestinian conflict: it will be moderation on the part of the Palestianians that will move them closer to peace. This includes gay rights, as in the rest of the arab world attitudes are very different in this area than in the west: I can't imagine what it must be like to grow up gay in such an unaccepting environment (being from the UK, where attitudes are far more tolerant), I offer my solidarity to gay muslims and arabs: be true to who you are.

September 22, 2006 5:45 PM  
Blogger Bar Bar Butt said...

I don't agree with Arabs on many issues, but their attitude towards gays is beautiful. The west could learn a lot from them.

If, we pushed a wall on every homosexual we would almost eradicate HIV and AIDS in the Western hemisphere.

October 19, 2006 4:02 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

are you still talking about the visit of the gay porn star?. is'nt the G star is an American befor he is being a jowish? I never heard b4 about any visit of a Christian actor to France or England (nobody use such language) why it has to b always about religon when it comes to Israel?

November 02, 2006 4:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

it is always funny reading a bunch of muslims complaining about themselves being victims when they do nothing but slaughter one another, blowing up innocent civilians in israel in the name of god. shame on you. the paslestinians elected terrorists to govern them, hezbollah just assasinated another prominent christian politician in lebanon and is working ahrd to destabilize lebanon's government. musilims are the philth of this earth damn you.

November 26, 2006 2:01 PM  
Blogger rockonmf said...

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December 01, 2006 12:08 PM  
Blogger rockonmf said...

I will give a free bj to every Israeli that LEAVES Palestine.
Let the Palestinians have Palestine & the Israelis have Israel.
Enug already.

December 01, 2006 12:12 PM  
Blogger Red Tulips said...

rockonmf:

Somehow, I think your offer will not be accepted. It also makes no sense. If every Israeli leaves Israel, then there is no Israel. Therefore, you don't believe in Israel's very existence.

Nice. *rolls eyes*

As someone who is likely gay, you should be particularly pro-Israel, due to your aligned interests.

You are too blind to see the obvious.

December 02, 2006 1:35 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks Red Tulips, but your point of view is already being expressed by your powerful media my dear. Besides no one cares whether a feigele like you way past his prime cares or does not care about the Palestinians, it does not make their cause less valid. Your comments come right out of Jewish Talk Central.

May 09, 2007 9:16 PM  
Blogger Federico said...

I'm sorry but Hizbullah, as every other islamist terrorist organization, is attacking Israel and the moderate Arab world PRECISELY because of their liberal nature and lifestyle. Gay rights are the symbol of our liberal, free mentality - and the fact that Lebanon is the most socially advanced country in the Arab world is best demonstrated by the fact that the first Arab GLBT organization, Helem, has been founded in Beirut.
Stop seeing Hizbullah as a sort of Lebanese national symbol: Hizbullah is nothing else than an Iranian, Khomeinistic cancer growing inside a beautiful, free, advanced and life-loving Lebanon.

Bahebbak ya Lubneen...

www.telavivtobeirut.blogspot.com

May 15, 2007 8:15 PM  
Blogger RAZ said...

I am Israeli and love your website. I am a flight attendant for El Al Airlines and can see Lebanon (and sometimes Beirut) from the air. It is my dream to visit Lebanon. We are all gay and need to stick by one another. It is not easy to be gay anywhere in this world. I know several couples in Tel Aviv where one guy is Jewish and his partner is a Palestinian. We can all take a lesson from them!!

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